Okay, sorry, but I don’t think it’s helpful, or even funny, to target women who are making a ‘success’ of their lives, as we are all trying to do in one way or another, given the limited choices available to them in a patriarchal world which demands physical perfection and constant availability to men on pain of being outcast by the very society in which they are trying to operate.
There are doubtless many male cartoonists making very misogynistic artwork and saying to any detractors that they are “just being silly,” or that they are only “joking,” as if that makes it okay. It doesn’t. And it doesn’t make it okay here, either, just because it is a feminist making the cartoons.
It might be better, do you think, to target the society which forces these ‘options’ onto women, rather than the women themselves?
And, I know it’s just a cartoon, and I’m probably coming across as your classic ‘humourless feminist,’ but you have talent, MaryTracy, and I think it could be put to better use, that’s all.
Aarghh…. stepping in to defend you here MT. I think Madonna particularly has behaved in a way which exploits other women (particularly her ‘sex’ book and her on stage kissing of a dancer – ie an employee, which was nothing less than sexual harassment in my eyes). And I don’t think anyone has pushed her to behave that way – she knows what she’s doing and she does it to make money, Which she’s already got plenty of without doing all the ‘sexxayy’ stuff that plenty of other female musicians succeed without.
I agree with Debs, its kind of pointless to make fun of women celebrities. Especially as celeb women get all kind of flak from the media and society for their appearance, etc – perhaps much more than women who aren’t celebrities. They have to regulate their appearance ALL the time. They live in a society with double standards just as much as we do. Beyonce was photographed before with a bikini and so called cellulite showing, and there was a media frenzy, there have been similar incidents with Madonna due to ageism (that maybe a woman of “her age” shouldn’t be doing this or that according to the media).
It took me ages to step past the ‘gossip’ shit that you learn when you’re young and reading teen magazines etc. That kind of attitude just serves to stir things up between women and make us think that we have to compare ourselves with each other or whatever.
The difference between bashing women celebs and men celebs is that normally women are bashed because of their appearance (sexist) whilst men are bashed because of their actions, usually. Definitely a double standard. Which is what it seems like to me here.
Attacking Madonna in an ageist way is wrong. However just because she finds herself on the wrong end of the Daily Mail doesn’t make her a a saint or immune to criticism. For the record my criticisms of Madonna are as follows.
1) She is a straight woman who feeds into the faux lesbian fantaisies of the media, representing lesbians as sex objects for straight men.
2) In pursuit of this she sexually harassed (cos there ain’t no other term for it) one of her employees.
3) She is an extremely wealthy woman who promotes patriarchal attitudes when she has absolutely no need to do this, for personal gain.
Oh and 4) (this is a complaint about her as a human being nb, not to do with her as a woman specifically).
She treated an African child (who has a living father) as a consumer object by adopting him and removing him from his native culture. When she could quite easily have given the child’s father the money to be able to care for his children himself instead. If he still didn’t want to do this then fine, but did she offer?
Oh and something else I forgot to add – if you look at the picture of Madonna kissing her backing dancer a) the dancer looks very uncomfortable with the situation and b) she’s black. Now that may just be coincidence. Or it may be that Madonna deliberately chose to play into the extremely popular(and racist fantasy) of white woman/black woman.
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